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Lauren Levey's avatar

This is a depravity tunnel without a bottom. What’s next? Normalization of snuff in real life?

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Niobe's avatar

Sex with children is certainly an objective.

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JC_Collins's avatar

No wonder they love puberty blockers so much.

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Shirley's avatar

Beyond disgusting. In plain sight and STILL people pander to this 😢🤬

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Mooncat's avatar

Scary shit. We are at war.

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MsGabriel's avatar

Dear Genevieve, I wonder if you could clarify something please. You quote the Palgrave Handbook, co-edited by Richards, as arguing for the "complete removal of paraphilias from the DSM".

But I notice in the highlighted passage apparently from the Handbook (or possibly from the British Psychological Society?) that "others argue for complete removal of non-criminal paraphilias from the DSM".

Does this mean that Richards, as lead psychologist for GIDS and Chair of the British Psychological Society, with advisory roles in EPATH and WPATH, advocates for complete removal of all paraphilias, including pedophilia, from the DSM?

Or only for removal of the "non-criminal" paraphilias?

However Richards appears to treat pedophilia as an exception from the wide range of "further sexualities" which he considers could be normalised, given his defence of ageplay with "repeated assertions ... that ageplay is not related to pedophilic impulses" (contradicted by Kevin Hsu & J. Michael Bailey).

I only noticed the discrepancy between quoted (all) "paraphilias" and highlighted "non-criminal paraphilias" on re-reading the article: after having cited Richards, possibly wrongly, several times as favouring the former. And am now confused.

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Genevieve Gluck's avatar

Ms Gabriel -

As I've tried to highlight here, ageplay is adjacent to and not separate from, pedophilic behavior, though Dr. Richards attempts to make a distinction between them.

"However Richards appears to treat pedophilia as an exception from the wide range of 'further sexualities'" - yes. Richards does not advocate for the sexual abuse of minors, but does obfuscate this by blurring the boundaries and claiming that such a thing as "ageplay" is unrelated to pedophilic fantasizing.

Though not mentioned in this article, there is some evidence of a push to destigmatize pedophilia, as well, coming from sexologists (which I have written about before) as well as queer theorists (a pattern observable over a span of decades). One thing to consider is that those with predatory sexual proclivities have a tendency to distort the truth or to otherwise provide cover for their actions.

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MsGabriel's avatar

Thanks very much for your clarification. Then I've been making a wrong claim about Dr Richards (though only as the "lead psychologist at GIDS", not by name) which I'll be more careful about in future. "Blurring of boundaries" (aka tendency to distort the truth) between ageplay and pedophilia does seem to be the important factor here.

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JC_Collins's avatar

Seems like biological males are mostly the ones with these messed up fetishes, doesn't it?

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